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Mark Bole
2005-05-27 19:38:23 UTC
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I've been lurking here for a while and have some questions.

Does anyone use this newsgroup (comp.databases.oracle.marketplace) for
anything besides a few geographically limited (U.S. East Coast) job
postings? There are so many dedicated job search web sites these days,
I wonder whether this is really an effective place for them (not that I
object to the posts, of course).

I saw an item or two here earlier this year from Daniel Morgan about
Oracle RAC and Apple server hardware, but there were very few follow-ups
-- almost as if it were a waste of time to post here.

Many of the regular contributors to other c.d.o.* groups sell various
services and products, yet they do not post about them here -- I wonder
why not? Does anyone know of any comp.* Usenet groups that have
successfully isolated commercial announcements and other promotions to a
single group without it devolving into a lightly-trafficked, poor man's
job board?

Here's what turned up in a search for comp.*.marketplace limited to the
current calendar year -- looks mostly like a poor man's EBay.

http://groups-beta.google.com/groups?q=group:comp.*.marketplace&start=20&num=10&hl=en&lr=&as_drrb=b&as_mind=1&as_minm=1&as_miny=2005&as_maxd=27&as_maxm=5&as_maxy=2005&safe=off&

According to Google groups archive listing, this group had ten to twenty
times the volume of traffic ten years ago, when the charter for c.d.o.*
was first established... what happened? (Other than the dot-com job
bust, of course).

If this group was renamed to comp.databases.oracle.spam, would anything
about it change, for better or worse?

Related, I see there was a Usenet call for vote about posting the
charter periodically back in early 2004, but I can't find the results of
the vote (it appears from the absence of any such regular posting that
the result was "no", I'm not sure why...any history that anyone cares to
share?)

-Mark Bole
DA Morgan
2005-05-27 20:26:12 UTC
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Post by Mark Bole
I've been lurking here for a while and have some questions.
Does anyone use this newsgroup (comp.databases.oracle.marketplace) for
anything besides a few geographically limited (U.S. East Coast) job
postings? There are so many dedicated job search web sites these days,
I wonder whether this is really an effective place for them (not that I
object to the posts, of course).
I saw an item or two here earlier this year from Daniel Morgan about
Oracle RAC and Apple server hardware, but there were very few follow-ups
-- almost as if it were a waste of time to post here.
Many of the regular contributors to other c.d.o.* groups sell various
services and products, yet they do not post about them here -- I wonder
why not? Does anyone know of any comp.* Usenet groups that have
successfully isolated commercial announcements and other promotions to a
single group without it devolving into a lightly-trafficked, poor man's
job board?
Here's what turned up in a search for comp.*.marketplace limited to the
current calendar year -- looks mostly like a poor man's EBay.
http://groups-beta.google.com/groups?q=group:comp.*.marketplace&start=20&num=10&hl=en&lr=&as_drrb=b&as_mind=1&as_minm=1&as_miny=2005&as_maxd=27&as_maxm=5&as_maxy=2005&safe=off&
According to Google groups archive listing, this group had ten to twenty
times the volume of traffic ten years ago, when the charter for c.d.o.*
was first established... what happened? (Other than the dot-com job
bust, of course).
If this group was renamed to comp.databases.oracle.spam, would anything
about it change, for better or worse?
Related, I see there was a Usenet call for vote about posting the
charter periodically back in early 2004, but I can't find the results of
the vote (it appears from the absence of any such regular posting that
the result was "no", I'm not sure why...any history that anyone cares to
share?)
-Mark Bole
Yes. I make a point of following up on what is posted here just to
encourage the group's use.

But your point is well taken. Perhaps I should start posting regular
promotional materials to create more action.
--
Daniel A. Morgan
http://www.psoug.org
***@x.washington.edu
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Ed Prochak
2005-05-31 16:27:21 UTC
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the other discussions that have happened here tend to be limited to a
few topics like
whether Certification is worthwhile or what are the career choices for
getting in/moving up in this field.

Notice that some postings are actually from job web sites. Even they
know where some of the better ORACLE talent lingers.

Ed
DA Morgan
2005-05-31 17:11:25 UTC
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Post by Ed Prochak
the other discussions that have happened here tend to be limited to a
few topics like
whether Certification is worthwhile or what are the career choices for
getting in/moving up in this field.
Notice that some postings are actually from job web sites. Even they
know where some of the better ORACLE talent lingers.
Ed
This usenet group is intended for promotions and announcements. We read
them, we act on them if we choose to. This is not a location intended
for ongoing threaded discussions.
--
Daniel A. Morgan
http://www.psoug.org
***@x.washington.edu
(replace x with u to respond)
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