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UncleOra for Oracle - tool with a script library and an advanced grid for developers and DBAs
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UncleOra
2004-11-01 13:23:12 UTC
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UncleOra for Oracle is a multi-threaded SQL and PL/SQL tool with a
script library and an advanced grid for developers and DBA.
With UncleOra you can build and execute queries, create database
objects and develop SQL and PL/SQL code.
It simplifies day-to-day administration tasks, data exportation and
reporting from the grid.

Visit us at http://www.uncleora.com
DA Morgan
2004-11-02 02:51:00 UTC
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Post by UncleOra
UncleOra for Oracle is a multi-threaded SQL and PL/SQL tool with a
script library and an advanced grid for developers and DBA.
With UncleOra you can build and execute queries, create database
objects and develop SQL and PL/SQL code.
It simplifies day-to-day administration tasks, data exportation and
reporting from the grid.
Visit us at http://www.uncleora.com
Your spam is not appreciated.

As a citizen of the net it is your obligation to read charters before
posting. And your rudeness is noted and you have undoubtedly damaged
any chance you had of getting any of us to visit your website.

If you wish to make amends apologize and promise to never, ever, spam
us again.

Commercial and promotion posts belong ONLY at c.d.o.marketplace.

Thank you.

Daniel Morgan
UncleOra
2004-11-02 18:14:32 UTC
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Post by DA Morgan
Your spam is not appreciated.
As a citizen of the net it is your obligation to read charters before
posting. And your rudeness is noted and you have undoubtedly damaged
any chance you had of getting any of us to visit your website.
If you wish to make amends apologize and promise to never, ever, spam
us again.
Commercial and promotion posts belong ONLY at c.d.o.marketplace.
Thank you.
Daniel Morgan
Dear, Daniel Morgan

We admit, that this was very rude and selfish to not read charters before posting.
We are really sorry and promise to never ever spam again.

Thank you,
ITUncles
UncleOra
2004-11-02 18:16:50 UTC
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Post by DA Morgan
Your spam is not appreciated.
As a citizen of the net it is your obligation to read charters before
posting. And your rudeness is noted and you have undoubtedly damaged
any chance you had of getting any of us to visit your website.
If you wish to make amends apologize and promise to never, ever, spam
us again.
Commercial and promotion posts belong ONLY at c.d.o.marketplace.
Thank you.
Daniel Morgan
Dear, Daniel Morgan

We admit, that this was very rude and selfish to not read charters before posting.
We are really sorry and promise to never ever spam again.

Thank you,
ITUncles
Joel Garry
2004-11-03 01:25:18 UTC
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Post by UncleOra
UncleOra for Oracle is a multi-threaded SQL and PL/SQL tool with a
script library and an advanced grid for developers and DBA.
With UncleOra you can build and execute queries, create database
objects and develop SQL and PL/SQL code.
It simplifies day-to-day administration tasks, data exportation and
reporting from the grid.
Visit us at http://www.uncleora.com
Latvia? LATVIA??? You want us to authorize money to be sent to LATVIA????

Are you trying to hide something?

jg
--
@home.com is bogus.
But it ain't in Latvia.
UncleOra
2004-11-03 14:23:57 UTC
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Post by Joel Garry
Post by UncleOra
UncleOra for Oracle is a multi-threaded SQL and PL/SQL tool with a
script library and an advanced grid for developers and DBA.
With UncleOra you can build and execute queries, create database
objects and develop SQL and PL/SQL code.
It simplifies day-to-day administration tasks, data exportation and
reporting from the grid.
Visit us at http://www.uncleora.com
Latvia? LATVIA??? You want us to authorize money to be sent to LATVIA????
Are you trying to hide something?
jg
Dear, sir!

What do you have against Latvia (http://www.lv) - an EU member since
May 2004?

You have nothing to worry about, because all registration procedures
are made through the authorized registrators - RegSoft and Share-It.

ITUncles
Joel Garry
2004-11-03 23:18:42 UTC
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Post by UncleOra
Post by Joel Garry
Post by UncleOra
UncleOra for Oracle is a multi-threaded SQL and PL/SQL tool with a
script library and an advanced grid for developers and DBA.
With UncleOra you can build and execute queries, create database
objects and develop SQL and PL/SQL code.
It simplifies day-to-day administration tasks, data exportation and
reporting from the grid.
Visit us at http://www.uncleora.com
Latvia? LATVIA??? You want us to authorize money to be sent to LATVIA????
Are you trying to hide something?
jg
Dear, sir!
What do you have against Latvia (http://www.lv) - an EU member since
May 2004?
Google for "Latvia scam" and you may see.

From an official US State Department government site about Latvia:

Internet crime is a growing concern in Latvia. Common fraudulent
schemes involve both Internet auction sites and Internet job search
sites. In the first scam, criminals offer valuable items for sale at
low prices on Internet auctions and request that payment be sent by
wire transfer to a bank in Latvia or though a fraudulent escrow site
that they have created themselves. In this scheme the money passes
through a bank in Latvia and is quickly withdrawn by ATM or
transferred to a bank in another country. It is very difficult in
these cases to discover the identities of the account holders or
recover the funds.

The second common scam involves identity theft through false job
offers. In this scheme, a company claiming to be located in Latvia,
but which has a non-existent address, offers the victim employment as
a U.S.-based agent or freight forwarder. When the victim responds to
the job offer, commonly posted on one of several popular internet job
sites, a Social Security number and other identifying
information-needed for the identity theft-is required under the guise
of conducting a background check.
Post by UncleOra
You have nothing to worry about, because all registration procedures
are made through the authorized registrators - RegSoft and Share-It.
It ain't the authorized "registrators" I would be worried about.

I'm more concerned about a web site that has no information about who
is behind the product, or what it really is doing. To me, that is a
red flag: are these students, criminals, hackers, what? Are they a
bunch of Russians with a different set of ethics than is the norm in
American business? Or just a bunch of inept marketers who stole some
product from elsewhere? Or even a legitimate company trying to make a
buck with a decent product? No way to tell. Certainly not by
downloading an .exe!

jg
--
@home.com is bogus.
http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/network/2004/11/02/sobig.html
UncleOra
2004-11-04 12:06:33 UTC
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Dear Joel Garry,

We are not responsible for all those internet crimes concerning
Latvia's name.
Such articles can be found about almost every country, even the USA.
Furthermore, we don't see any analogy to those two crime schemes, this
article is talking about. We do not offer any valuable items for
internet auctions asking to send money by wire transfer to bank in
Latvia (at least this information you can get from our website). And
certainly we do not offer any jobs.

O.K. We agree, that information in our company's website is not
complete and we are going to update it as soon as possible.
Revisit http://www.uncleora.com in few weeks, too see all the
information.

Talking about the authorized registrators - of course, you might not
be interested in those difficulties we experienced registrating our
product, and it seems to us now that it was because we are from
Latvia. Does that mean that we can not offer any products if we are
from Latvia?

Thank you for your time and efforts,
ITUncles
Post by Joel Garry
Google for "Latvia scam" and you may see.
Internet crime is a growing concern in Latvia. Common fraudulent
schemes involve both Internet auction sites and Internet job search
sites. In the first scam, criminals offer valuable items for sale at
low prices on Internet auctions and request that payment be sent by
wire transfer to a bank in Latvia or though a fraudulent escrow site
that they have created themselves. In this scheme the money passes
through a bank in Latvia and is quickly withdrawn by ATM or
transferred to a bank in another country. It is very difficult in
these cases to discover the identities of the account holders or
recover the funds.
The second common scam involves identity theft through false job
offers. In this scheme, a company claiming to be located in Latvia,
but which has a non-existent address, offers the victim employment as
a U.S.-based agent or freight forwarder. When the victim responds to
the job offer, commonly posted on one of several popular internet job
sites, a Social Security number and other identifying
information-needed for the identity theft-is required under the guise
of conducting a background check.
Post by UncleOra
You have nothing to worry about, because all registration procedures
are made through the authorized registrators - RegSoft and Share-It.
It ain't the authorized "registrators" I would be worried about.
I'm more concerned about a web site that has no information about who
is behind the product, or what it really is doing. To me, that is a
red flag: are these students, criminals, hackers, what? Are they a
bunch of Russians with a different set of ethics than is the norm in
American business? Or just a bunch of inept marketers who stole some
product from elsewhere? Or even a legitimate company trying to make a
buck with a decent product? No way to tell. Certainly not by
downloading an .exe!
jg
Joel Garry
2004-11-04 22:58:36 UTC
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Post by UncleOra
Talking about the authorized registrators - of course, you might not
be interested in those difficulties we experienced registrating our
product, and it seems to us now that it was because we are from
Latvia. Does that mean that we can not offer any products if we are
from Latvia?
Personally, I would be quite interested in those difficulties,
although this probably isn't a good forum for that. Whether it was
because you are from Latvia or the people in the registrars are
idiots, I couldn't say, although my experience would lean toward the
latter. You can offer any products you want in the proper fora,
cdo.marketplace in this case, as you so graciously acknowledged
previously. I still won't download an .exe from an unknown source,
because I still have no way to vet it beforehand. I don't really have
anything against non-US software, heck, the antiviral I use at home is
written by some German in Iceland or something. But that is a known
source.

jg
--
@home.com is bogus.
"Zero and negative infinity each require 1 byte; positive infinity
requires 2 bytes." - O Concepts Guide
Fridrik Skulason
2004-11-05 21:38:36 UTC
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Post by Joel Garry
I don't really have
anything against non-US software, heck, the antiviral I use at home is
written by some German in Iceland or something.
Antiviral...Iceland - that sounds like us ;-) We're the only antivirus
company up here. No Germans, though - A couple of Bulgarians, a
Russian, one guy from Argentina and another from Poland, but mostly
Icelanders...no Germans, though.

-frisk
Joel Garry
2004-12-02 21:17:05 UTC
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Post by Fridrik Skulason
Post by Joel Garry
I don't really have
anything against non-US software, heck, the antiviral I use at home is
written by some German in Iceland or something.
Antiviral...Iceland - that sounds like us ;-) We're the only antivirus
company up here. No Germans, though - A couple of Bulgarians, a
Russian, one guy from Argentina and another from Poland, but mostly
Icelanders...no Germans, though.
-frisk
Sorry Fridrik, I was misremembering a Bulgarian's former edu address
:-)

(Wish I didn't have to disable real time protector to run ad-aware.
If I don't, 'puter locks up hard [W98SE]. I suppose that is
ad-aware's fault...).

jg
--
@home.com is bogus.
http://www2.cddc.vt.edu/eff/pub/Publications/CuD/Alive/alive01.01
DA Morgan
2004-11-05 05:25:23 UTC
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Post by UncleOra
Dear Joel Garry,
We are not responsible for all those internet crimes concerning
Latvia's name.
That may well be. But if you are legitimate, and understanding the
reality of doing business, you will do something about it. Here are
a few suggetions.

1. Open an account with a legitimate bank in the US or UK such that
you can be paid through them.

2. Provide the name of a counsellar official in the US and the European
Community where we can verify you are a legitimate business.

3. Make available to us, within 24 hours, contacts within Oracle Corp.
with whom you deal who we can use to verify your integrity. They need
to have oracle.com or oracle.co.?? email addresses.

4. Don't insult us with web links or addresses that can not be verified.

You may safely assume that failure to do what legitimate businesses do
will result in your being treated like the plague. Your actions will
speak infinitely more loudly than words.
--
Daniel A. Morgan
University of Washington
***@x.washington.edu
(replace 'x' with 'u' to respond)
Igor Laletin
2004-11-05 05:08:24 UTC
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joel-***@home.com (Joel Garry) wrote in message news:<***@posting.google.com>...
...
Post by Joel Garry
Latvia? LATVIA??? You want us to authorize money to be sent to LATVIA????
...
Are they a bunch of Russians with a different set of ethics than is the norm in
American business?
...
jg
All right, now please explain what Russians have to do with your
concerns about sending money to LATVIA.

Waiting for apologies,
Igor
DA Morgan
2004-11-05 05:28:14 UTC
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Post by Igor Laletin
...
Post by Joel Garry
Latvia? LATVIA??? You want us to authorize money to be sent to LATVIA????
...
Are they a bunch of Russians with a different set of ethics than is the norm in
American business?
...
jg
All right, now please explain what Russians have to do with your
concerns about sending money to LATVIA.
Waiting for apologies,
Igor
I'm far more concerned with omlet posting a link that makes our #1 troll
and spammer look like part of your organization. If you can't explain
him away your birth on the internet was stillborn.
--
Daniel A. Morgan
University of Washington
***@x.washington.edu
(replace 'x' with 'u' to respond)
Andrey
2004-11-05 07:46:34 UTC
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Post by DA Morgan
Post by Igor Laletin
Are they a bunch of Russians with a different set of ethics than is the norm in
American business?
All right, now please explain what Russians have to do with your
concerns about sending money to LATVIA.
Waiting for apologies,
Igor
I'm far more concerned with omlet posting a link that makes our #1 troll
and spammer look like part of your organization. If you can't explain
him away your birth on the internet was stillborn.
Daniel, as for me, I much more concerned about you indefatigable desire to
poke you nose into every hole, even if you don't really now why you longing
to do so.

If you don't want to download .exe , it's you own businness, desire and,
after all, problem. You must either download better antivirus software or
visit phychoterapist to remove this annoying anchor of yours, maybe both.
Joel Garry
2004-11-05 19:33:23 UTC
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Post by DA Morgan
Post by Igor Laletin
...
Post by Joel Garry
Latvia? LATVIA??? You want us to authorize money to be sent to LATVIA????
...
Are they a bunch of Russians with a different set of ethics than is the norm in
American business?
...
jg
All right, now please explain what Russians have to do with your
concerns about sending money to LATVIA.
Waiting for apologies,
Igor
I'm far more concerned with omlet posting a link that makes our #1 troll
and spammer look like part of your organization. If you can't explain
him away your birth on the internet was stillborn.
That seems a bit unfair, looks to me like
he-who-should-remain-nameless-but-has-an-unhealthy-fixation-on-destruction-of-male-gamete-producing-morphology
just did a simple troll to make them look bad.

jg
--
@home.com is bogus.
http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20041104/news_1b4yukos.html
DA Morgan
2004-11-06 02:07:36 UTC
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Post by Joel Garry
Post by DA Morgan
Post by Igor Laletin
...
Post by Joel Garry
Latvia? LATVIA??? You want us to authorize money to be sent to LATVIA????
...
Are they a bunch of Russians with a different set of ethics than is the norm in
American business?
...
jg
All right, now please explain what Russians have to do with your
concerns about sending money to LATVIA.
Waiting for apologies,
Igor
I'm far more concerned with omlet posting a link that makes our #1 troll
and spammer look like part of your organization. If you can't explain
him away your birth on the internet was stillborn.
That seems a bit unfair, looks to me like
he-who-should-remain-nameless-but-has-an-unhealthy-fixation-on-destruction-of-male-gamete-producing-morphology
just did a simple troll to make them look bad.
jg
--
@home.com is bogus.
http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20041104/news_1b4yukos.html
On review and a bit of research I agree. So this weekend I am posting
the UncleOra link on the site.

And for those of you that don't like my attitude toward spammers ...
go take a flying leap at a rolling donut. Because I would gladly,
and personally, flog each and every one of them with a cat-o-nine-tails.

Daniel Morgan
--
Daniel A. Morgan
University of Washington
***@x.washington.edu
(replace 'x' with 'u' to respond)
Andrey
2004-11-06 08:20:58 UTC
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Post by DA Morgan
On review and a bit of research I agree. So this weekend I am posting
the UncleOra link on the site.
And for those of you that don't like my attitude toward spammers ...
go take a flying leap at a rolling donut. Because I would gladly,
and personally, flog each and every one of them with a cat-o-nine-tails.
Daniel, it's clear case that real spammer is you, not UncleOra advertiser.
Your first reaction was to produce maximum possible traffic even without
looking at the OP link. Then you "agree" with something that already known
to anybody but you.

Daniel, it's true that you do not usually start mass hysteria, but it's you
who supports it.
Your usual behaviour pattern is quite simple an easy to guess. It looks like
this - some mentally unstable person posts his delusions provoked by
mass-media mind-destructing machine. No matter what about - about cunning
Latvians stealing credit-cards numbers, malicious Russians riding bears at
the center of the home town of yours or about dead kitten at the back yard.
And here it is, You, readily supporting this nonsense, posting angry
truth-revealing messages, replying, disputing, trying to persuade somebody.

Psychotic who post rubbish about Latvians is hard case, required many months
without TV and rags somewhere at the serene garden far from problems of the
city. But your case, Daniel, can be easily treated. Your phobias is no more
dangerous then childish angst of the dark or spook in the damp cellar. Just
3 or 4 visits to hypnotist will do the trick . Believe me, all you fears of
the DBA-targeting spammers, latvians, russians, huskies, Santa-Clause stuck
in the chimney and hedge-hogs in the wardrobe are no more then gespensters.

Cheeers!
DA Morgan
2004-11-06 12:31:14 UTC
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Post by Andrey
Post by DA Morgan
On review and a bit of research I agree. So this weekend I am posting
the UncleOra link on the site.
And for those of you that don't like my attitude toward spammers ...
go take a flying leap at a rolling donut. Because I would gladly,
and personally, flog each and every one of them with a cat-o-nine-tails.
Daniel, it's clear case that real spammer is you, not UncleOra advertiser.
With all due respect you might wish to learn the meaning of a word
before you use it.
--
Daniel A. Morgan
University of Washington
***@x.washington.edu
(replace 'x' with 'u' to respond)
Joel Garry
2004-11-05 19:17:50 UTC
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Post by Igor Laletin
...
Post by Joel Garry
Latvia? LATVIA??? You want us to authorize money to be sent to LATVIA????
...
Are they a bunch of Russians with a different set of ethics than is the norm in
American business?
...
jg
All right, now please explain what Russians have to do with your
concerns about sending money to LATVIA.
Waiting for apologies,
Igor
Apologies to all Russians. Except that spammer guy Ibragimov. And
those Yukos guys.

Now, let's go back in history and try to figure out what parts of what
countries have been in Russia... :-)

jg
--
@home.com is bogus.
Are there really more billionaires living in Moscow than in New York?
Dusan Bolek
2004-12-03 11:27:09 UTC
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Post by Joel Garry
Now, let's go back in history and try to figure out what parts of what
countries have been in Russia... :-)
To be Howardish (i.e. very precise or even punctual about technical
terms and naming) the only former part of Russia that is not Russia
today is Crimean Peninsula that was handed to Ukraine in the fifties.
Latvia was never a part of Russia, but of Soviet Union which was
theoretically the union of coequal republics in the similar way how
USA comprehends its states. Russia was only the one of the republics
with the same rights and position (again theoretically) as all others
(including Latvia).

--
Dusan Bolek
http://www.db-support.com

Email: ***@seznam.cz
Pls add "Not Guilty" to the subject, otherwise your email will face an
unpleasant end as SPAM.
Joel Garry
2004-12-03 19:38:45 UTC
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Post by Dusan Bolek
Post by Joel Garry
Now, let's go back in history and try to figure out what parts of what
countries have been in Russia... :-)
To be Howardish (i.e. very precise or even punctual about technical
terms and naming) the only former part of Russia that is not Russia
today is Crimean Peninsula that was handed to Ukraine in the fifties.
Latvia was never a part of Russia, but of Soviet Union which was
theoretically the union of coequal republics in the similar way how
USA comprehends its states. Russia was only the one of the republics
with the same rights and position (again theoretically) as all others
(including Latvia).
Eh? http://www.poloniatoday.com/history10.htm

jg
--
@home.com is bogus.
http://www.1911encyclopedia.org/R/RU/RUSSIA.htm
AK
2004-12-03 23:05:51 UTC
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Post by Dusan Bolek
Latvia was never a part of Russia, but of Soviet Union which was
oh yes it was, from the very beginning of 18th century until 1917
Joel Garry
2004-12-02 21:27:52 UTC
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Burnham, ISBN 0-684-80699-1, 1996
*
* ...in 1993, it appears in that year alone the government agents
* listened to something like 810,000 conversations.
Of course, the NSA has stated it needs no warrants and doesn't even consider
the legality of purely domestic wiretaps.
* The Puzzle Palace, Author James Bamford, 1983 revision
*
* P229: "There's your smoking pistol right here." Watters says it is tied
* into the local telephone company circuits, which are interconnected with
* the national microwave telephone system owned by AT&T. Other specialists
* testified to the same thing: purely domestic intercepts.
I would say a MINIMUM of 100 million purely domestic U.S. conversations
are run through NSA keyword monitoring each year.
And who is listening to all our court authorized conversations?
* "Above the Law", by David Burnham, ISBN 0-684-80699-1, 1996
*
* Under a little-noticed section of a 1986 law, Congress dropped the
* requirement that only the FBI's high-priced Special Agents could
* listen to the tapes. The FBI now hires low-cost clerks for what must
* be extremely tedious work.
An army of low-cost clerks are listening to our private conversations?
I feel sick.
----
Conclusion: Louis Freeh is a manipulative liar.
Louis Freeh is a Scary Man with the morals of a styrofoam cup.
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jg
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@home.com is bogus.
"If you want to know if you are middle-aged, figure out when you are
going to die and divide by 2." - Wall Street Journal
Robert
2004-11-05 15:26:46 UTC
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"Joel Garry"
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Latvia? LATVIA??? You want us to authorize money to be sent to LATVIA????
Are you trying to hide something?
what Latvia ? how do know that ?
Joel Garry
2004-11-06 00:02:33 UTC
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"Joel Garry"
Post by Joel Garry
Post by UncleOra
Visit us at http://www.uncleora.com
Latvia? LATVIA??? You want us to authorize money to be sent to
LATVIA????
Post by Joel Garry
Are you trying to hide something?
what Latvia ? how do know that ?
whois.org on the domain. Not that that is necessarily accurate,
especially in the case of an actual bad guy, but normally somewhat
accurate. First place I check if a purported commercial website has
no phone or address. I'm always amazed when people are mad that
they've been exposed (I'm not referring to this thread).

My comment about Russians in this thread was not intended as a troll
of relcom, or to cast aspersions on Russians in general, sorry it came
across that way. I only intended it to be a comment on how different
cultures have different mores, and that some business cultures in
transition do have issues with ethics. I've done the same thing to
mainland Chinese and others, yes even in the US, who have appeared to
be attempting to hide the source of their programs. Such an attempt
is a negative to me. And yet, a few places I've worked do the same
thing, and I know they are ok (or at least were when I was there) - in
those cases, I think it is just people thinking they need a web
presence, just because everyone else has a web presence - they're not
places likely to be dealing with a large random customer base
downloading $100 software. But at least they have a phone number!

jg
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@home.com is bogus.
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/business/20041105-0840-fbi-insiders.html
Robert
2004-11-05 15:27:35 UTC
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oh boy,. not another TOAD-like creature....
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